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Bad Attitudes–On Self Hating Submissive Men and Please Shut the Fuck Up Already And Get Right With Your Damned Self

These grapes are sour.

Get ready. This is going to be a rant.

Lately, I’ve been deeply enmeshed in the “porn” side of femdom, writing erotica, creating some hot audio improvs and recording some audios of other writers’ enjoyable smut. And I’ve been enjoying myself. I tend to get on a creative roll, which feels good. Fantasy is fun. So is the attention.

I’ve also been interacting with a lot of guys who have submissive fantasies because of this. And they have mostly been nice and respectful. Really. Like 99%! The chastity guys are the best. Being locked up is really doing something for their manners. We should try it in congress.

But, man. There have been a few men…just a few….

The response that really got me, which wasn’t even directed at me, personally, was about femdom porn and male submissives in general. Basically, it made all kinds of claims about how male subs really hated themselves and 99.9% of all male sub are secretly bisexual and just using being submissive as an excuse to work out sexual orientation through “forced bisexuality.”

And that sub men were seen as weak and most were being abused and emasculated.

And it was WRITTEN by a guy who claimed to be a male submissive.

But, you know. Like a DIFFERENT kind of male submissive.

Not like those other guys.


Sure…sure…he still wanted women to be in charge of him and sexualize him and presumably tease and “torture” him…but…you know…only in a totally “heterosexual” way.

And not in a way that made him feel “worthless,” even though he wasn’t talking about fantasy at all—but all those actual, real life men involved in real life relationships where their kinky female partners were making them feel like shit about themselves all the time, but I guess they just stayed in those relationships because they were emotional masochists and totally not like IDK regular miserable vanilla people in crappy relationships.

And even though he said he couldn’t find porn he liked that he could identify with, as this totally macho totally straight submissive man, he also couldn’t be bothered to, you know, provide any examples of what he meant or go through the bother of making any himself. Much better to just shit all over what other people have made.

It’s much more productive that way.

At first I argued with him. But then I realized I was wasting my breath. I wasn’t going to change this guy’s mind any more than I was going to convince the people over at the evangelical church that Biden is their guy.

The one sort of interesting point he made was that feminization of some kind (even using cute names) tends to more prevalent in femdom than masculinization is in maledom. He used the example that you don’t see maledoms dressing up their female subs like lumberjacks.

That was amusing and true.

But there are also LOTS and LOTS of femdoms who like very masculine looking submissives.

Dare I say the majority?

I know that for me, a preference for some gender bending in men has nothing to do with emasculating them. I just think men’s clothes are very limiting, and some men look really hot a little more…peacocked?

I feel like the fact that more femdoms than maledoms are into a little cross dressing has a lot less to do with wanting to humiliate anyone as just liking things that are—pretty.

I don’t know. I can admit that was an interesting point. It is true that far fewer women in kink want to be dressed up or treated like the opposite sex, but I also think that men, for all their privileges, are still in very constrained societal boxes in terms of what is “acceptable” regarding their appearance, the way they express emotions and their expressions of sexuality. This is one area of life in which women in many countries have more freedom than men.

And as for using pet names? Calling men “good boys?” Well, that is hardly limited to femdom! Both sexes enjoy that kind of play.

And women, on the whole, have to rely on something other than brute strength to be seen as powerful. I have never met a man, any man, who I think couldn’t physically overpower me, if he wanted to.

And yes…that is because I am pathetically weak.

But it is also because I’m a woman, and I have no upper body strength. Even men who I was SURE I could take down—no. I was wrong.

So, where do I get my power from? I am given power, and a lot of it is sexual power. And the way I display my power is often through the use of language.

I really don’t like to play armchair psychologist with kink. While I’m sure there are some deep seated psychological reasons that I like to express my sexuality the way I like to express it, a lot of it boils down to—it’s just hot. I find it hot. And lots of people do. Lots and lots. I have no doubt that 36% of Americans are fucked up. I place the number much higher than that. But I don’t think 36% of Americans are fucked up BECAUSE they like kink. Or that it’s the kink that’s made them fucked up.

So, who is really the self-hating one? The guy who accepts his sexuality and doesn’t feel the need to shit all over things other people are into? Or the one who can’t stand that other men are into things he isn’t because he’s so insecure he doesn’t want to be lumped into a category with them?

Gee.  And which one do I find more appealing as a woman—especially as a woman who is willing, eager to toy with conscripted gender roles? Someone who is accepting of himself and others? Or someone who has narrow definitions of what they find acceptable regarding sexuality and gender and a grudge against what is already a self-selecting group that is hurting no one and forcing no one to join?

5 thoughts on “Bad Attitudes–On Self Hating Submissive Men and Please Shut the Fuck Up Already And Get Right With Your Damned Self”

  1. It doesn’t sound like your ‘manly male submissive’ has too much experience of actual relationships. Presenting myself as a real wimp to my wife is an enjoyable part of our marital relations. The difference between this, and how she actually regards me, is what we both enjoy about it.

    There is an element to feminizing a dominated male that seems to have faded out over time. My tastes shaped up back in the days of 5″x7″ booklets under the counter. The motive of the woman inflicting female attire on a male always had a healthy dose of ‘let’s see how you like this, buddy’. Women wore girdles and hose and heels routinely, and whether women did actually resent having by convention to do that or not, the men writing the stories thought they’d have a good case if they did. These conventions being gone, dressing a male in female attire doesn’t carry quite the meaning it did when they were societal norms.

    1. That’s actually very interesting. I admit I have never thought of feminization as inflicting the discomforts of women’s clothing UPON men, although now that you mention it, I really do hate bras. 🙂 I think in order for it to be really sadistic, I would have to force them to wear a too tight bra all day AND walk around in heels that haven’t been broken in so they got blisters. LOL. Not exactly sexy. Also–that feeling when you’ve been wearing foundation for hours and it just feels cakey and gross.

      This is a great comment. I really do not know this person at all. Most of the male submissives and bottoms I know personally are good, tolerant guys–or I wouldn’t hang out with them!

    1. I was feeling a little peeved. It’s really just insecurity and unhappiness. I do feel sad for people who feel like they don’t have a “place,” because I understand that feeling. But you don’t have to insult other people’s desires because yours aren’t the same.

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